Ignore bind:value for type="checkbox"

[KevsRepos]

Describe the problem

Now that Svelte allows dynamic types on the input element, you can have a checkbox with a bind:value attribute. When checking the checkbox, Svelte yells:

Error: Using bind:value together with a checkbox input is not allowed. Use bind:checked instead

I understand the error, but I don't understand why its there. As far as I know, you cant dynamically/conditionally unbind an input value, whether the type is checkbox or not, so the only "solution" would be to not use type="checkbox" together with bind:value, which definitely makes sense on its own, but is not practical in dynamic web apps.

https://svelte-5-preview.vercel.app/#H4sIAAAAAAAAA22QwQ6DIBBEf4Vw8dLGni2a9DvaHhTXSIpAYLU2xH8viE09eCHMvJ3sZD3thARHi7unqh6AFvRmDD1R_Jgo3AQSIWinR8ujwxy3wmD1UA-UgGSq5QikJJfrz4nRYGRqHBqwWfBZ_g8pJpQZkTRCtUUKx0Dp47uQPM04kMD3Qxtf1zJtUGhVpQUs3-QeIcx4CEzt3Fvb9hDyHvir0fMOhuprlfjt7VbPr5UWciapVbjPoFvRCWhpgTag5_IFiyp9kFoBAAA=

Describe the proposed solution

Two things:

1. simply ignore bind:value when type="checkbox". The input element still has a value attribute and property, so it would not break anything if we just ignored it.
2. Add a compiler warning when Svelte encounters an input element which is or could potentially become a checkbox (dynamic type attribute) and no bind:checked, but only bind:value is applied:

Warning: bind:value will have no effect on user input when this element becomes a checkbox. Consider adding bind:checked to properly bind to user input.

<input type="checkbox" /> <!-- ok -->

<input type="checkbox" bind:value bind:checked /> <!-- ok -->

<input type="checkbox" bind:value /> <!-- warning -->

<input type="text" bind:value bind:checkbox /> <!-- ok -->

<input type="text" bind:checkbox /> <!-- warning (Now warn that bind:checkbox will have no effect) -->

<input type="text" bind:value bind:checked /> <!-- ok -->

Importance

would make my life easier

[cemkaan]

Must be labeled as feature request

[7nik]

The problem is that value is still maybe used on a checkbox, so you shouldn't bind to it:

<form>
  <input type="checkbox" name="my-checkbox" value="yep">
</form>

here, the form data will have my-checkbox=yep when checked. Without value it will be my-checkbox=on. But with bind:value you can have, e.g. confusing my-checkbox=false, my-checkbox=no or my-checkbox=0. Though seems Svelte replaces the empty value ("") with "1" on checkboxes.

Things became more complicated with radio and grouped inputs.

[7nik]

Maybe it would be better to treat <input type="checkbox" bind:value={value}> as <input type="checkbox" bind:checked={value}> when the input doesn't have group and checked attributes.

[KevsRepos]

Treating bind:value silently as bind:checked is not only more confusing than the original idea, its also limiting behaviour. Binding to a value on a checkbox may actually make sense from a UX perspective.

[brunnerh]

Binding to a value on a checkbox may actually make sense from a UX perspective.

It does not make sense because the input will never change it in response to user interaction, hence the error.

Would suggest dropping the error if

• type is dynamic and
• checked is bound

If type is not dynamic, there is no reason for binding value. If checked is not bound, the input state is only bound in some cases, which would be inconsistent.

[KevsRepos]

It does not make sense because the input will never change it in response to user interaction, hence the error.

Just to make that clear: You can definitely create some UI and logic that can change an elements property based on user interaction.

https://svelte-5-preview.vercel.app/#H4sIAAAAAAAAA22OywrCMBBFf6UMQhWE7mMsuBE3foF1UZspDMRJSCaFUvrv9iHYhctzz2XmDtCSxQjqMQDXbwQFF-_hCNL7GWKHVnDi6FJo5kTHJpCXsuJKLErW1TZhds52UWrBfZ4fThXr4tdiTeyTZC9io9Z2seYRLTZbsRzVzgs5Lm9ordPFl7bm3v-Nr4GQzUZNK5YP5bT_7Qy1hAaUhITjc_wAzlxbC_oAAAA=

And the value property of a checkbox is not meaningless. In a form submission, the server will receive the form requests checkbox value as the given string. So you can create meaningful logic with this technique and Svelte should allow doing it.

[brunnerh]

I was only referring to <input type="checkbox">, which is where the error is shown because that input does not change its own value.

[SikandarJODD]

You can Simply add one if Statement to solve this https://svelte-5-preview.vercel.app/#H4sIAAAAAAAACm1P0U7EIBD8FYIm1aRanxGa-B3iQ0u3HpEuBOh5puHfDZTTPtwLYWdmZ2c2OmsDgbL3jeKwAGX0zTna0vjj8hDOYCLQlga7epURHpTXLvYSZTQQyXkwKxBBXl6vSF4lgjS4LiP45g9XJ1BfMIl5MAEKes-IshisgWdjPx-q4FEi7_6v4Han52IqhGiKZrSXJmUDrtGt-8UDRUaNE6tuhHS9xI2BCZAk1o2i2KOX5S2_qWo7PWd35AEMqKO46kp5bl3UFvu9Ju_qeKQiXOJNwg0hfFs_3SSvPQ4k7_Yo-XvyJaXErURK5InsqWhLFzvpWcNEWfQrpI_0C6H1NQbgAQAA

{#if type==='checkbox'}
  <input type='checkbox' bind:checked  />
{:else}
  <input bind:value type={type}  />
{/if}

[KevsRepos]

I was only referring to <input type="checkbox">, which is where the error is shown because that input does not change its own value.

@brunnerh That doesnt change the principle behind my example. In my example, the input element also doesnt change its own value, its the select element that changes the value. And this would also work with type="checkbox" - if only Svelte would'nt complain.

[KevsRepos]

You can Simply add one if Statement to solve this https://svelte-5-preview.vercel.app/#H4sIAAAAAAAACm1P0U7EIBD8FYIm1aRanxGa-B3iQ0u3HpEuBOh5puHfDZTTPtwLYWdmZ2c2OmsDgbL3jeKwAGX0zTna0vjj8hDOYCLQlga7epURHpTXLvYSZTQQyXkwKxBBXl6vSF4lgjS4LiP45g9XJ1BfMIl5MAEKes-IshisgWdjPx-q4FEi7_6v4Han52IqhGiKZrSXJmUDrtGt-8UDRUaNE6tuhHS9xI2BCZAk1o2i2KOX5S2_qWo7PWd35AEMqKO46kp5bl3UFvu9Ju_qeKQiXOJNwg0hfFs_3SSvPQ4k7_Yo-XvyJaXErURK5InsqWhLFzvpWcNEWfQrpI_0C6H1NQbgAQAA

{#if type==='checkbox'}
  <input type='checkbox' bind:checked  />
{:else}
  <input bind:value type={type}  />
{/if}

This is not really an alternative approach to my example. You <select> changes the type of the input, but not the value.

While experimenting, I found out you don't have to bind to the value to... bind it. Is this supposed to work like that? https://svelte-5-preview.vercel.app/#H4sIAAAAAAAAA22QwW6DMBBEf8VaVSKV2nInJlEuVS_5gpIDMYtYxbEte0GJEP9eMCHh0OPM7O48bQ81aQyQ_fZgyitCBgfn4AP47iYROtSMow629WpyZFCeHO8KU7BGFl2pWxS5eAtcMm6SH9TaJu_bJVcNqsvZ3l4jMTMyfR0ykoxrWUyleQHLSgHiTKbKuKGQ94s7iD52DiKddwNqVDyPxiSySeuYrNlFHpk-1Do53v-1vz2hqVbRSBob5rbGP3oXik_xRNt_zd74r6utqCasIGM_OqfhD5CrJqpqAQAA

Edit: Yes, it makes sense it works like this. bind:value makes definitely no sense on a checkbox. The original problem still exists though. bind:value should just be ignored.

[brunnerh]

Is this supposed to work like that?

I was about to note that you seem to have a serious misunderstanding about what bindings are. They exist only to enable transferring data out of elements or components in response to events/prop changes.

The vast majority of properties should not use bindings at all.

These are just different shorthands that can be used if variable names match:

<!-- input only -->
<input value={value} />
<input {value} />

<!-- in and out -->
<input bind:value={value} />
<input bind:value />

Again, there is nothing that makes a checkbox input change its value on interaction. You can still pass in a value without bind:, this then will also not cause any errors.

[KevsRepos]

@brunnerh Yes, I realized my misconception shortly after that. I must have confused myself during the conversation.

Besides that, the initial point is still valid. I do understand that bind:value can have no effect on a checkbox, as there is no user interaction that causes the element itself to change its value, but there is no need to forcibly prevent developers from using bind:value on checkboxes. The original post already describes the problem and a proper solution good enough, I think I dont have to repeat myself.

[7nik]

But then you end up with a confusing code:

<input {type} bind:value bind:checked={value}>

And you already can solve this with quite simple and clear #if:

{#if type==='checkbox'}
  <input type='checkbox' bind:checked={value}  />
{:else}
  <input {type} bind:value  />
{/if}

so I doubt the team will implement your proposal.

[KevsRepos]

I think we need more community and maintainer input at this point 👍🏻

[cemkaan]

{#if type==='checkbox'}
  <input type='checkbox' bind:checked={value}  />
{:else}
  <input {type} bind:value  />
{/if}

looks perfect solution .

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[dummdidumm]

The error is sound, it prevents confusing code in more cases than it prevents people from writing certain code patterns - and as pointed out above, there's an easy if-else check to work around it. Therefore closing.