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Rev 2 board doesn't fit on Rev 3 Amiga 500 motherboards

Open MatGrump opened this issue 3 years ago • 17 comments
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The inductor LF1 is lower on Rev 3 boards and doesn't allow for installation of the REV 2 RGD2HDMI board. See attached images

https://imgur.com/a/YwSwP5C

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MatGrump avatar Oct 10 '22 14:10 MatGrump

Hi,

That is not one of my RGBtoHDMI board for the A500.

It looks like it is from PM Developments:

https://www.facebook.com/PMDevelopments/ https://www.instagram.com/pmdevelopments/

You'll have to raise that with that developer.

solarmon avatar Oct 10 '22 14:10 solarmon

yes sorry. I noticed after i posted it. It looks like yours has taken this into consideration.

MatGrump avatar Oct 10 '22 14:10 MatGrump

No worries. I can't remember whether I actually tested with a rev 3 board - I'll have to dig it out to check!

solarmon avatar Oct 10 '22 14:10 solarmon

No problem, if you need me to measure anything please let me know.

MatGrump avatar Oct 10 '22 14:10 MatGrump

Actually, I don't have a rev 3. I was thinking of a rev 5, which I do have.

Using an image I found of the rev 3, I overlayed an image of my latest RGBtoHDMI A500 board, and that looks like it wouldn't fit either:

image

The coil is definitely much lower in a rev 3 board!

I can think of three options you might have:

  1. Use the original RGBtoHDMI board design, which doesn't have a pi relocator.

  2. Use my RGBtoHDMI Amiga Denise CPLD FFC Rev 1.1 (https://github.com/solarmon/RGBtoHDMI#rgbtohdmi-amiga-denise-cpld-ffc-rev-11) with a RGBtoHDMI Amiga Denise DIP Breakout FFC (https://github.com/solarmon/RGBtoHDMI#rgbtohdmi-amiga-denise-dip-breakout-ffc).

  3. Replace the Denise socket on the RGBtoHDMI board with ones with longer pins that pass straight through. This shift down the board a bit, which MIGHT work. I use such a socket for my RGBtoHDMI CDTV solution and it also makes it a bit lower profile.

solarmon avatar Oct 10 '22 18:10 solarmon

The latest LinuxJedi design, looks like it should support rev 3 motherboards:

https://github.com/LinuxJedi/AmigaRGBtoHDMI/tree/main/Amiga500CPLD

solarmon avatar Oct 10 '22 19:10 solarmon

Some good solutions. I have the option to return this board and get another which is probably what I will do for now while I think about a different solution. The LinuxJedi looks like the simplest way forward but they are out of stock.

Thanks for all the help, even though it wasn't even your board. Very much appreciated.

MatGrump avatar Oct 10 '22 19:10 MatGrump

I made a longer version based on the old linuxjedi version that i think also would fit. longboy_rev3

and there is also this version that should fit: https://github.com/nobodyisinocent/RGBtoHDMI#tiny-rgb2hdmi-cpld-design-

Just for future reference :)

Retrofletch avatar Nov 21 '22 12:11 Retrofletch

@solarmon is it possible to make a Extralong version of CPLD 500 PCB with your FF addons? Retrofletch has one, but without FF OSD support.

regards

ehalebi avatar Aug 19 '23 11:08 ehalebi

It would be quite easy to make solarmons design a bit longer to fit but i just dont have the time at this moment

Retrofletch avatar Aug 19 '23 15:08 Retrofletch

@solarmon is that something you could do? Maybe 5-8cm longer. So a lot of people got a Gotek drive and want to add also HDMI to their A500s. And if you also got an accelerator card sitting on a 90 degree Relocator, than this will be the BEST RGB2HDMI Solution .

only thing missing is still an onboard audio embedder/injector for all of the RGB2HDMI PCBs.

ehalebi avatar Aug 19 '23 16:08 ehalebi

I have bought an audio Inserter for installing it internally in my A500 image

ehalebi avatar Aug 19 '23 16:08 ehalebi

@ehalebi

It can certainly be done, but unfortunately, this is not high my list (if at all). Probably the only reason I would work on this again, is to create a PLCC version of it.

Regards,

Mon

solarmon avatar Aug 19 '23 18:08 solarmon

Do I need to buy software to do this?

regards

ehalebi avatar Sep 11 '23 12:09 ehalebi

@ehalebi

Do I need to buy software to do this?

regards

To do what?

solarmon avatar Sep 12 '23 07:09 solarmon

To extend manually the length of your PCB? Or is there decent freeware to do such kind of jobs. I would probably try my own.

ehalebi avatar Sep 12 '23 09:09 ehalebi

@ehalebi

The PCB design was done using KiCAD, which is an open source application - https://www.kicad.org/

But be warned - it is a very steep learning curve if you don't already have experience in PCB design.

solarmon avatar Sep 12 '23 09:09 solarmon