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"+1" for useful annotations
(I checked for possible duplicates, but if I missed something that discusses this issue, please close this one.)
This may tie in to moderation issues, I guess, but the ability to +1 a particularly insightful annotation would serve a couple of different purposes:
- It would provide feedback to the author of the annotation that their contribution was useful.
- Users can track which annotations they found useful themselves by going back to their "saved" list, via the
+1s.
The moderation angle is that a +1 from credible people in the research field (e.g.) would add value to the annotation itself.
Although the arguments from @RaoOfPhysics seem reasonable. In the end this just turns hypothes.is into another social network.
@fiatjaf That's exactly what I was thinking. At that point, we could just write a browser extension to display reddit comments.
In the end this just turns hypothes.is into another social network.
I'm curious. You've made an implicit judgment here, but not an explicit one. Clearly the tool is social already. It's not yet quite a "network" because we don't yet let people form direct relationships (by "friending" or "following" others)-- and by the way the +1 probably isn't the thing that makes it a network. Twitter would still be a social network, even without the (heart).
Is it that social networks are bad? That there are too many of them? That they distort the universe in which they exist in a negative way? If you can clarify, that would be quite helpful to me.
More broadly though-- what is it that you perceive Hypothes.is is and isn't, and what would you like more of and what would you like less of.
Many people ask for some form of voting or "liking". Is there a way that this might be done that would be more to your preference?
At that point, we could just write a browser extension to display reddit comments.
I agree that Reddit comments should be able to be seen in proximity to their target articles.
We've got a placeholder for that here: https://github.com/hypothesis/vision/issues/40
The upvotes could also handle an issue of what happens when too many people are annotating the same document. In my class I have some text with hundreds of annotations (we are going to transition to groups to cover this) and I could imagine some documents reaching that threshold.
Sometime the tool crashes under the weight of the noise. Ignore the technical debt, that can be solved, the real issue is how would a user find the signal through the noise. A +1 system might allow some interesting ways curate annotations and surface better signals.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:34 PM Dan Whaley [email protected] wrote:
In the end this just turns hypothes.is into another social network.
I'm curious. You've made an implicit judgment here, but not an explicit one. Clearly the tool is social already. It's not yet quite a "network" because we don't let people form direct relationships (by "friending" or "following" others)-- and by the way the +1 probably isn't the thing that makes it a network. Twitter would still be a social network, even without the (heart).
More broadly though-- what is it that you perceive Hypothes.is is and isn't, and what would you like more of and what would you like less of.
Many people ask for some form of voting or "liking". Is there a way that this might be done that would be more to your preference?
At that point, we could just write a browser extension to display reddit comments.
I agree that Reddit comments should be able to be seen in proximity to their target articles. #40 https://github.com/hypothesis/vision/issues/40
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/hypothesis/vision/issues/188#issuecomment-184966649.
A +1 system might allow some interesting ways curate annotations and surface better signals.
As volume increases, we'll need something :)
I agree with the above points in favor of a +1 option, and the thought that hypothes.is is already a social network of sorts and thinking of it in those terms might help us come up with metaphors that make this all palatable for users (like, being able to easily "follow" or "highlight" other users).
Sometime the tool crashes under the weight of the noise. Ignore the technical debt, that can be solved,
@jgmac1106 - As an aside and not related to the discussion here, I've been doing some investigation into this. If you have examples of such pages that might be useful for testing.
@robertnight do you have an issue filed already? Don't want to clog up +1 discussion.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, 6:55 AM Robert Knight [email protected] wrote:
Sometime the tool crashes under the weight of the noise. Ignore the technical debt, that can be solved,
@jgmac1106 https://github.com/jgmac1106 - As an aside and not related to the main thread here, I've been doing some investigation into this. If you have examples of such pages that might be useful for testing.
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/hypothesis/vision/issues/188#issuecomment-185170113.
If you are using this as an internal tool for comments on your own web materials, it could be useful to see the most popular. High popularity might indicate the quickest wins.
@dwhly I am pondering on cons and pros of karma. Karma allows sorting by top, hot and controversial. On the other hand karma opens doors for karmawhores, abuse and is prone to selection bias. But I do not know of a better solution to discern signals by quality.
I believe Reddit does it best and I agree that there is nothing wrong with people being able to discuss anything on the internet in a similar fashion, but in context. It seems to me that a vision of hypothes.is as "reddit in context" is a great one.
Hopefully I made sense.
Another request for this in the Chrome webstore - tracking internally here: https://hypothesis.zendesk.com/agent/tickets/3271
