Startline: no way to know - is car moving

[ildar170975]

The problem

Currently there is no way to know if a car is moving or not. At least I do not have a corresponding sensor for Starline S96. According to official Starline API, it is possible to retrieve and process a corresponding data. Also, this flag is available in web site.

What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue?

2023.5.4

What was the last working version of Home Assistant Core?

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What type of installation are you running?

Home Assistant Container

Integration causing the issue

Starline

Link to integration documentation on our website

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/starline/

Diagnostics information

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Example YAML snippet

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Anything in the logs that might be useful for us?

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Additional information

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[Anonym-tsk]

Which method of starline api provides this information?

[ildar170975]

Cannot tell anything about a particular method, I am a user, not a programmer here. In a mobile client (and in a web client as well) a user can see:

• a “moving” flag - it is displayed as a working engine on a picture (probably this is not exactly a “car is moving” signal, it is an “engine on” signal);
• a current speed (shown on a map).

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[ildar170975]

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[ildar170975]

Up. If the Startline service allows to get this info (which I do not know for sure - but I can see a speed in the Starline web interface) - then this info should be provided by the Starline integration as well.

[rvalitov]

Engine status already available in this integration. Regarding the vehicle speed - it's useless because data update via API is very slow and the speed will be very inaccurate.

[Anonym-tsk]

Where you want to have speed information? Additional sensor? Attribute in device_tracker?

[ildar170975]

@Anonym-tsk

Where you want to have speed information?

Suggest to create a separate sensor with device_class: speed which is initially disabled.

@rvalitov

Engine status already available in this integration

It does not reflect "moving or not" as I noticed.

Regarding the vehicle speed - it's useless because data update via API is very slow and the speed will be very inaccurate.

I see on Starlink web interface when looking on a card that speed is changing - it seems to be updated as frequent as a geoposition (I could be wrong).

[rvalitov]

I see on Starlink web interface when looking on a card that speed is changing - it seems to be updated as frequent as a geoposition (I could be wrong).

True, the information is updated frequently at Starline part (web & app). I mean that according to the manual the Starline integration communicates with Starline servers via the API which has a serious rate limiting. As far as I understand, HA will get this speed information every 5 minutes or 3 hours. However, I don't know if HA during the API call will receive speed as a single value or as an array - a smooth list of speed values since last API call. If it's an array - then it's OK. If it's a single value, then it will be very inaccurate and I don't see any practical usage of this. Perhaps, @Anonym-tsk can comment how it could really work.

Regarding checking the status of car moving or not, I would check if GPS location of the car changed or not since last API call. A custom binary sensor in HA would work, I guess. But anyway the main problem here is that all the data does not update in real time and has quite a delay because of API communication rate limiting...

[ildar170975]

@rvalitov

Regarding checking the status of car moving or not, I would check if GPS location of the car changed or not since last API call.

This is what I do currently ))

If it's an array - then it's OK

Even this approach is not useful for users (if historical data are presented as an array). Such data cannot be explicitly used to build graphs.

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[ildar170975]

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[Grifindorec]

Hello @Anonym-tsk I think we can get this state from topic "run". Can u add it to sensor?