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Add n|fuse PoE HAT with Mini PCIe and M.2 Slot Options

Open geerlingguy opened this issue 1 year ago • 4 comments
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n|fuse has a Power over Ethernet Hat for the Raspberry Pi 5 with mini PCIe and M.2 Slot options, which combines a PoE HAT capable of 25W of power, plus a mini PCIe, M.2 M-key, or M.2 E-key slot, in a low profile board that should fit inside standard Pi 5 cases.

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Could be nice for deploying edge Pis with PoE instead of separate power + networking, without needing two HATs or a separate PoE power adapter and multiple cables running to the Pi.

geerlingguy avatar Apr 20 '24 18:04 geerlingguy

I have one of these on hand to test!

geerlingguy avatar Aug 20 '24 00:08 geerlingguy

On the site here: https://pipci.jeffgeerling.com/hats/n-fuse-poe-hat-pcie.html

geerlingguy avatar Sep 11 '24 02:09 geerlingguy

In looking over the unit I was sent, I noticed a few things and have sent an email to n|fuse to ask about them:

  • There is no isolation transformer, which IIRC is a requirement for any PoE PD (Powered Device), to provide protection from overvoltage (and maybe other benefits?). But maybe they have some other protection in place?
  • My unit didn't include a PCIe FFC, or a GPIO passthrough header, so I needed to supply my own — hopefully production units will include those.
  • The board is almost compatible with the Pi Active Cooler, but it looks like three heatsink fins would need to be snipped to make it fit. I have asked what cooling solution is recommended with this board.

I'm going to wait for further testing until I hear back from n|fuse.

geerlingguy avatar Sep 17 '24 15:09 geerlingguy

Some responses:

  • n|fused modified Active Coolers using a similar technique that I used for the Radxa Penta SATA HAT — physically removing three of the heatsink fins (I used a needle-nose pliers)
  • They will ship a set of screws, standoffs, and cables with their units (my test unit was just not shipped with them as it was early production)
  • Regarding the lack of a transformer: "That's true, the design is not isolated. The advantage of our design is certainly that is supports PoE .bt and is pretty efficient."

More test notes:

  • Thermals were interesting (see later image). This huge inductor got up to 60°C, and what's weirder is the edge of the board where there are just some status LEDs was getting past 50°C. I wonder if there's some extra current running through there or something, not sure.
  • Coil whine: Couldn't hear anything at all, possibly partly from lack of transformer?
  • Installed, a couple of the circuits bump against the Active Cooler fan
  • Shutdown worked fine, and you can still see PoE Power status and type indicator LEDs while the Pi is powered off

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I have a question in regarding what the LEDs mean, and if the heat in that corner of the board is expected behavior.

geerlingguy avatar Sep 17 '24 17:09 geerlingguy