David Schultz

> on second/third/fouth thought, it might be better to make the hidden idletime be the amount of time you've been connected for, instead of `0`, otherwise someone might see the...

This might be achievable by telling the user_drop and nick_ungroup hooks that the drop/ungroup was forced by a soper and then have the multimark module not save marks on that...

We'd probably need to use a char that isn't `!` because that is the char used for groupserv groups and that could be problematic. Maybe `%`?

Would it also be necessary to require auspex be engaged for getting details like frozen accounts or getting details about closed channels?

> Then how do I fix it to install services? From the atheme source directory, run `git pull && git submodule update` (this assumes you obtained the source from git).

> No did `wget https://github.com/atheme/atheme/releases/download/v7.2.11/atheme-services-v7.2.11.tar.xz` do you want me to try using git? Yeah try with git, I'm not 100% sure that the newest changes will move over to the...

Please make sure that you are also identified to your *NickServ account* and not just your OperServ account. See `/msg NickServ HELP IDENTIFY` for details on how to do that.

Can you please paste your operator block from the `services.conf` file and the output of `/msg OperServ SPECS`?

Your issue is not that you are not a services operator, it is that you do not have the appropriate individual privileges to do the specific command you are trying...

All should be good now. You can disregard the last commit. It was just my local version of the repo conflicting with the remote repo.