"Ghost" cameras in wb_presets.json and noiseprofiles.json

[Donatzsky]

When developing a tool to generate a list of supported cameras (currently here: https://github.com/Donatzsky/darktable-camera-support), I noticed there are more than 20 cameras that have either WB presets or noise profiles, but aren't in cameras.xml or are explicitly not supported by RawSpeed.

For the Nexus 5X it seems to simply be a case of mismatched maker (LG vs LGE) and the OnePlus phones plus a few others shoot DNG, so are implicitly supported, but that still leaves the rest.

Personally, I'm just interested in finding out how to deal with them. If they should be considered unsupported or what. But it might be an idea to go over the list and see if anything needs fixing.

Maker	Model	WB Presets	Noise Profile	Decoder	RawSpeed Support	Debug
Canon	PowerShot A710 IS	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
DJI	FC220	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
DJI	FC3170	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
Fujifilm	FinePix S20Pro	Yes	No		unknown-no-samples	Source: wb_presets.json, wb_presets.json: No decoder
Fujifilm	FinePix S9100	Yes	No		unknown-no-samples	Source: wb_presets.json, wb_presets.json: No decoder
Hasselblad	L1D-20c	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
Kodak	P850 ZOOM	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Kodak	ProBack645	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Leica Camera AG	R8 - Digital Back DMR	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Leica Camera AG	R9 - Digital Back DMR	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
LGE	Nexus 5	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
LGE	Nexus 5X	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
Minolta	DiMAGE 5	Yes	No		no-samples	Source: wb_presets.json, wb_presets.json: No decoder
Minolta	DiMAGE G500	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Minolta	DiMAGE Z2	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Nikon	E8700	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Olympus	SP510UZ	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
OnePlus	ONEPLUS A6003	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
OnePlus	OnePlus Nord 3 5G	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
Panasonic	DC-G9M2	Yes	No		no	Source: wb_presets.json, wb_presets.json: No decoder
Pentax	Caplio GX100	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
Raspberrypi	RP_imx477	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json
Samsung	GX-1S	Yes	No	Unknown		Source: wb_presets.json
YI TECHNOLOGY	M1	No	Yes	Unknown		Source: noiseprofiles.json

[kmilos]

There are a good number of them that output only DNG, and if that works OOTB, we don't have to list them in cameras.xml

[ralfbrown]

Those are most likely cameras that once had support but lost it when the old rawsamples.ch went away, sometime around the 2.2 release 2.4 release notes request sample images to be able to continue supporting cameras.

[Donatzsky]

Since there's no way to know which shoot DNG, for the purposes of the camera support list, I'll leave decoder as unknown and let the users figure out what it means for them.

[kmilos]

Since there's no way to know which shoot DNG

From this list: DJI drones (incl. Hasselblad L1D-20c), Leicas, LGE phones, OnePlus phones, YI M1 - they will go through RawSpeed decoding.

@paperdigits also

[kmilos]

Those are most likely cameras that once had support but lost it when the old rawsamples.ch went away

One could also xref this w/ https://raw.pixls.us/?noncc0#repo and https://raw.pixls.us/?missing#repo

[ralfbrown]

Canon PowerShot A710 IS is on the non-CC0 list. The two FinePix models are on the missing list. The Kodaks aren't on either. Haven't checked the rest.

[paperdigits]

Please keep in mind we are not looking for one off fixes, but rather some logic we can implement in the utility.

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Canon PowerShot A710 IS is on the non-CC0 list. The two FinePix models are on the missing list. The Kodaks aren't on either. Haven't checked the rest.

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[Donatzsky]

I have added a csv file for specifically supported cameras. Others are left as unknown. https://github.com/Donatzsky/darktable-camera-support/blob/main/rawspeed-dng.csv

[Donatzsky]

@kmilos Can you verify that the list of DNG cameras is correct?

[kmilos]

The csv list looks ok to me.

[victoryforce]

Since this issue was used for a question that has already been answered and no fix is ​​needed, I am closing this issue.