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Vote on topics for future CNCF Technology Radars

Open oicheryl opened this issue 5 years ago • 60 comments

If you are interested in learning what end users recommend for a cloud native use case, add a comment below or +1 to vote. Examples could be categories from the CNCF Landscape, or industry verticals such as financial services.

Topics will be selected quarterly by the editorial team as the basis for a CNCF Technology Radar.

More information at https://github.com/cncf/enduser-public/blob/master/CNCFTechnologyRadar.pdf

oicheryl avatar Jun 12 '20 12:06 oicheryl

Cheryl, I've done this type of project before. Here are a few suggestions:

  1. Make sure to have a link to the actual tool/product being evaluated. Make sure to time stamp the assessments.
  2. Review the quarterly assessments at a meeting of CNCF end users. This way, you are not assigning a rating only based on the number of votes a technology initially gets.
  3. Don't compromise on making this an invite-only activity.

LawrenceHecht avatar Jun 12 '20 18:06 LawrenceHecht

And, in response to a tweet from @caniszczyk, I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings. Of course, I don't have insight into the membership sales pitch, so take that idea for what it's worth.

LawrenceHecht avatar Jun 12 '20 18:06 LawrenceHecht

@LawrenceHecht

This is an activity meant for CNCF End Users who are actually running these projects in production and share this information amongst each other in a safe environment where there are no vendors, it's by design we do it this way. It is a membership benefit of becoming an official CNCF End User :)

caniszczyk avatar Jun 12 '20 18:06 caniszczyk

@LawrenceHecht I appreciate the comments!

1.Make sure to have a link to the actual tool/product being evaluated. Make sure to time stamp the assessments.

+1, it's definitely a point in time exercise.

Review the quarterly assessments at a meeting of CNCF end users. This way, you are not assigning a rating only based on the number of votes a technology initially gets.

The CNCF end users review the draft before it is released. Each radar will feature a different set of projects depending on the use case, so each technology will be assessed anew each time.

Don't compromise on making this an invite-only activity.

Also +1. I've already had people ask how they can get their project on the radar.

I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings.

Some of the end users don't have legal/PR permission to publicly state what they use, hence CNCF can publish only aggregrated and anonymized results.

oicheryl avatar Jun 14 '20 12:06 oicheryl

I like the content, but PDFs are not a useful output medium for this kind of thing (imho).

travis-sobeck avatar Jun 15 '20 20:06 travis-sobeck

@travis-sobeck you mean the graphic? What don't you like about it?

oicheryl avatar Jun 16 '20 11:06 oicheryl

@oicheryl The problem with a PDF is that it's not interactive. If I'm looking at a graphic with data points, I want to be able to click on the data points to see the source, think of a Grafana graph (or anything similar). Or at a minimum, a link to a specific line on a spreadsheet/webpage with the data. Which is the problem with a PDF, its just one monolithic thing. I want to send a link to someone else to a specific piece of info, not the whole monolithic thing. Lastly, a pdf of a spreadsheet is again not interactive. Give people read access to the anonymized data, even if its just json/csv or google spreadsheet.

travis-sobeck avatar Jun 16 '20 13:06 travis-sobeck

@travis-sobeck Got it, I'd absolutely love to make it more interactive. As the very first tech radar it's intentionally a bare bones MVP, but we can add all sorts of bells and whistles over time.

I really want to make this a useful resource for the wider community, so very happy to get the feedback and improve!

oicheryl avatar Jun 16 '20 16:06 oicheryl

@oicheryl Yeah, that's fair.

travis-sobeck avatar Jun 16 '20 16:06 travis-sobeck

I would be interested to know what end users recommend for monitoring solutions :)

povilasv avatar Jun 20 '20 04:06 povilasv

@oicheryl very nice and useful initiative

Would be great to see this for:

  • Security
  • Monitoring

gadinaor avatar Jun 22 '20 05:06 gadinaor

Great insight and very useful.

Voting for future ideas:

  • Security
  • Monitoring / Visbility

KellyGriffin avatar Jun 22 '20 22:06 KellyGriffin

Love the concept! Flux was buried in my long list of things to check out and this moved it up towards the top. I'd like to see radars for:

  • security
  • service mesh

jcwinchell avatar Jun 24 '20 02:06 jcwinchell

@povilasv @gadinaor @KellyGriffin @jcwinchell I've noted your votes - please keep them coming!

oicheryl avatar Jun 24 '20 15:06 oicheryl

+1 for:

  • Service Mesh
  • Observability (Monitoring, Visibility, and the like)

cpretzer avatar Jun 26 '20 17:06 cpretzer

Nice job Cheryl!

+1 for:

  • Serverless

rmleme avatar Jun 27 '20 02:06 rmleme

Great concept!

+1 for :

  1. Security ( Kubernetes, Containers, Reduce attack surface, Mitigate cyberjacking)
  2. Monitoring
  3. Virtualization
  4. Requirements management (Rally, VersionOne,WorkFront, JIra etc)
  5. Incident management
  6. Log management

netinfo03 avatar Jun 27 '20 03:06 netinfo03

  1. Security
  2. Service Mesh
  3. Performance monitoring
  4. Log Management

rsraszka avatar Jun 27 '20 11:06 rsraszka

+1 for:

  1. Monitoring
  2. Security
  3. Service Mesh
  4. Log Management

gunturaf avatar Jun 27 '20 15:06 gunturaf

Hi @oicheryl - this is brilliant!

As discussed in the TOC call (and wanted to capture here), I think it would be very valuable to also have a radar that focused on technology types (as opposed to specific projects) e.g. different runtimes vs serverless or perhaps different types storage (e.g. object vs file vs block vs KV vs database), as that would provide an indicator for where SIGs need to focus on. (This would be similar to the Techniques quadrant in the example on slide 6 in your deck).

In terms of votes for the next focus areas:

  1. Storage
  2. Observability (including monitoring, logging, performance, instrumentation etc ...)

chira001 avatar Jun 29 '20 08:06 chira001

Cheers @chira001 and yes, the Radar format could absolutely be extended to techniques or technology types.

It's getting hard to track so let's do this a bit differently. I'll post one topic per comment, and then people can 👍 the ones they want to see. If you think of something that's not listed, you can add another comment.

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Incident management

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Log management

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Monitoring

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Performance monitoring

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Security

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Service Mesh

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Serverless

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Virtualization

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl

Requirements management

oicheryl avatar Jun 29 '20 14:06 oicheryl