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Allow for vertical tabs
Carried over from https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/2185
- tabs shown in side bar
- side bar width is changeable
Implementation in Microsoft Edge
Example extension offering this support in Firefox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
Example of vertical tabs in Vivaldi
Still no Vertical tabs? Haven't used this browser since I installed it. Vertical Tabs in the sidebar is an absolute necessity. I can't believe anyone was stupid enough to create horizontal tabs in the first place. Dumbest idea ever.....makes absolutely NO SENSE. The only software I ever paid for was the iRider browser back in 2000....they were the first to use Vertical tabs and I won't use ANY browser that doesn't have them.
I also want to second this. Vertical Tabs on one side and web panel on the other side like in Vivaldi is very useful.
I attached an example picture. On the left side I use the web panel and have whats app web open to chat with my friends. In the middle I see the actual website and on the right are all the tabs. Can we get this in brave too?
I mean since Muon is getting ditched and you are instead using Chromium, I am sure this is a gross oversimplification, it seems like there should be no technical hurdle in your way to implement vertical tabs at this point. This is one of the major reasons Vivaldi is my current daily driver over Brave, on desktop, today.
The vertical tabs in the above Vivaldi screenshot is just this add-on that's also available in Firefox and (I think) some other browsers as well: https://gitlab.com/kroppy/TreeTabs
If Brave can allow this add-on and other similar ones to function then it will already be enough.
I'm using this add-on in Firefox currently and have 1200 open tabs in my session, only a few are ever loaded in memory though.
The new Chromium versions of Brave are technically-compatible with extensions in the Chrome Web Store. If it works in Chrome, it should work on Brave too. And Vivaldi is also Chromium-based, so if there's an extension to get this functionality there, you should be able to get it working in Brave too.
Obvi, none of this is the same as having this functionality natively in Brave by default. We're trying to do a whole bunch of different things to improve browsing and the web. Vertical tabs are extremely 💯, and they definitely make more sense than horizontal tabs for hoarders like me. But hopefully an extension will cover the bases while we make our way through the "Wow, we definitely should have fixed this a while ago." part of our to-do list before we can get to the "This will be really neat." things like vertical tabs.
+1 for vertical tabs. I really want to use/patronize Brave browser, especially for their disruption of the online advertisement industry, but I just can't switch without vertical tabs. As has been mentioned before, Vivaldi's implementation is great. Please implement vertical tabs.
I see that https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/1873 was closed in favour of this one. However, they are not the same.
https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/1873 is about side panel, while this one is about vertical tabs... I don't see why they should be merged in the same ticket.
For clarification, vertical tabs in Vivaldi are not from an extension; it's built directly into the browser. Vivaldi gives you the option to have tabs on any side of the screen.
Regarding "needs mockup", can I just give you a screenshot of vivaldi and say "this is perfect, there is nothing to add or remove, if you do anything other than this you are getting it wrong"? https://i.imgur.com/150q5PJ.png
I don't know if anyone's provided satisfying rationale here, the point of vertical tabs is that they let you show a fair amount of the titles of the tabs. Making sure that most of each title is visible is important.
Tree style tabs isn't very useful ime, it's not worth sacrificing the space taken up with indents (unless you allow your indents to be very shallow, I guess). Another thing to note is, if titles are getting truncated regularly due to limited space, we don't have room for an ellipsis. Using an elipsis to indicate truncation is horrible. A right-edge shadow is much more space-efficient. If you really want to introduce a visual indication of whether or not the title is truncated, you could turn the right edge shadow off for a line iff the title is fully shown, but it would be more complicated to implement and probably not worth it.
Tree style tabs isn't very useful ime,
I disagree. The point of tree is to be able to see which tab is child of which. Let's say I am researching speakers; I will search it on Google, and open 8 tabs while scrolling through results. I will go over the open tabs and I might find the right one on 3rd tab, and then I can close the whole tree starting from the google search without touching other trees. It usually gets more complex than that, making it even more essential to have indentation as an option
Reading the Ethereum Yellow Paper and searching references and codebases on the various blockchain concepts requires tree-style tabs, just saying ;).
Re: Sidewise
If you can't do vertical tabs at least fix and support the Sidewise (Chrome addon) so it doesn't crash, or at least have a session manager or backup system so when it does crash precious weeks work isn't lost.
It's not great but it's not bad aside from the crash and loss. It already exists so you don't have to reinvent the wheel but there's lots of room for improvement (ie. make a Sidewise dark theme).
It's amazing after all this time you haven't implemented vertical tabs. It is THE reason I don't use this browser. If you can make horizontal tabs...you can make vertical tabs. It's that simple. Can you imagine if Windows explorer had a horizontal tree rather than a vertical tree? How retarded would that be? I'll tell you. It would be as retarded as a browser with horizontal tabs of which far fewer tabs are visible and must be scrolled through. Quite frankly, I'll NEVER understand why the first idiot who came up with tabs made them horizontally rather than vertically. Well, necessity is the mother of invention and practically every popular browser has vertical tabs now. Those that don't will NEVER become widely used. Why is that so hard to understand?
why the first ... made them horizontally rather than vertically.
@SirCaldude Screens used to be 4:3 and nobody was multitasking on web as today. We used 5 tabs tops so it was fine. Now my screen is 16:9 which after TitleBar, AddressBar, BookmarksBar, StatusBar, and Windows' TaskBar is more like 2:1, or even 5:2 on my tablet, so that 1cm of vertical space is very valuable space, especially on laptop and tablet screens. I use Brave only on my desktop's 3rd vertical screen, on resolution 1200x1920 and for me it is usable there as a tertiary browser just displaying my mail and for long reads. I still use FF everywhere else because of the vertical tabs
I must say Brave browser got my attention and I'm ready to switch. The only thing that is keeping me back is missing option for vertical tabs, which is these days 'must have' feature for many.
Those that don't will NEVER become widely used. Why is that so hard to understand?
Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs (except for hacks/extensions that work far from ideal) and it is quite popular
Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs (except for hacks/extensions that work far from ideal) and it is quite popular
@danielfranca If Google made a tab-less browser it would still be popular. 99.999% of people have not even heard of Brave so it needs differentiation from 100 other browsers out there, and also a good reason for professionals to switch. That beings said, Vivaldy has them but it is still not very popular. Vertical Tabs is one of those things that once you start using, there is no going back. Honestly, the only reason I am supporting this one is because of the hope it could support it, otherwise I am satisfied with Firefox/Chrome/Edge/Vivaldi for particular purposes, but I hope that Brave could one day have advantages of all of those. If it was written in c# I would have done more than this comment.
@milos12345 I get all that....but the first piece of software of the very few I have ever paid for was the "iRider Browser" back in 2000 or 2001. It was the first with vertical tabs built in with no option for horizontal tabs. It had very well planned options to open as a child, to close a tree, to right click and open as a new parent, to open as a child but stay at the parent tab, to go to the new tab, etc. It's an amazing browser and I wish they had kept it updated to work with Win7 and beyond. Horizontal tabs are retarded and unintuitive NO MATTER the screen dimensions.
I would like to throw in my vote in favor of this. It is hard to do heavy research with the tab titles obscured. I would prefer nesting, but even Vivaldi's system would be a huge upgrade for usability. Also thank you for the work you are doing.
The lack of useful tab management is the single biggest factor holding me back from using Chrome/Chromium based browsers.
Right now I have 56 tabs open, and that's while trying to keep them to a minimum. My email, chat, some real estate stuff I'm working on, two youtube videos, a number of Ancestry tabs while I work on genealogy, several articles I'm reading, some wiki pages, a few Facebook discussions I'm participating in, a few more articles, and several tabs on Amazon etc for a computer I'm building.
At this point my tabs are essentially nothing but favicons. Even clicking on them is a gamble as there's so little room to click without accidentally closing a tab or clicking the wrong tab... and forget about actually knowing which tab is which, as none of the title is visible.
This is one area where Firefox currently absolutely dominates Chrome/Chromium based browsers.
Chrome has been useless to me from the start due to this. I cannot understand how this browser has gone so long with such abjectly useless tab management that treats desktop power users like simpletons on a mobile app that don't need more than one tab at a time.
I really hope Brave can finally break this trend and give me a viable option for Finally leaving Firefox for a faster browsing experience, something I'm increasingly motivated to do given some of their ideological choices as of late.
With Firefox going in the direction of diversity>merit, this feature should be elevated above P5 as it poses a great opportunity for the Brave project to acquire many new loyal users.
+1 for Vertical tabs. So far, Opera is the only browser capable of handling my obscene amount of open tabs with a sane vertical tab panel
What about the estimated delay to see this? P5 = 2029 ? Or is there any chances of seeing this coming in the upcoming months?
@cron410 Fellow tab addict here. You might also check out https://vivaldi.com/. It has vertical tabs and tab hibernation built in, no extensions needed. I use fewer extensions with it than any other browser, Firefox included. It has loads more customisations too, but these were the only two I really care about and I hope make their way to Brave. I want to prefer Brave over the other Chromiums.
@keeganwitt : long time I had not checked Vivaldi and just WOW. What an amazing work they have done with their browser. Really like it and giving it a go. Spent an hour testing the features. Amazing. Editable shortcuts, vertical tab bar, privacy. Thanks for sharing that.
PS: Sorry Brave ^^
Yes, please, vertical tabs. I will completely switch to brave if we have vertical tabs.
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