Loss goes to 0

[jaidmin]

Hi,

first of all thanks for publishing the source code, I want to try this new method in a segmentation problem I have, to avoid having to weigh the classes by hand.

When I try it, the loss approaches 0 very fast, going down to less than 2e-7 in a single epoch. I use it as follows:

max_pooling_loss = mpl.MaxPoolingLoss(ratio=0.3, p=1.7, reduce=True)
def mask_loss(pred,targ):
    return max_pooling_loss(F.cross_entropy(pred, targ, reduce=False))

When I just use crossentropy, the model trains fine. Any ideas on what might be causing this?

Cheers, Johannes

[bes-dev]

Hi,

It's works for me with latest version of PyTorch. Which version of PyTorch do you use?

Best regards, BeS

[jaidmin]

Hi,

I use pytorch 0.4 and python 3.6. On pytorch 3.1, the code doesn't work due to the breaking changes regarding Variable/Tensor in 0.4.

Is the idea correct to first apply some loss_function and the use the maxpooling?

Cheers, Johannes

[bes-dev]

This code works fine for me:

class Loss:
    def __init__(self):
        self.criterion = nn.NLLLoss(reduce=False)
        self.mpl = mpl.MaxPoolingLoss(ratio=0.3, p=2.0, reduce=True)

    def __call__(self, pred, gt):
        loss = self.criterion(pred, gt)
        loss = self.mpl(loss)
        return loss

[jaidmin]

Hmm, still can't make it work...

Tried a few more values for p and ratio, but didn't change anything.

Any ideas on how I could try to debug this? Intermediate values or gradients or something?

I only have 5 classes in the moment, the background is dominating by far (about 86 % percent averaged over the training set), could that be a reason why it doesnt work for me?

[bes-dev]

You can try to visualize loss before and after mpl and check that it works correct.

class Loss:
    def __init__(self):
        self.criterion = nn.NLLLoss(reduce=False)
        self.mpl = mpl.MaxPoolingLoss(ratio=0.3, p=2.0, reduce=False)

    def __call__(self, pred, gt):
        loss = self.criterion(pred, gt)
        cs_vis =  loss.cpu().data[0].numpy()
        _, max_v, _, _ = cv2.minMaxLoc(cs_vis)
        cv2.imshow("cs_vis", cs_vis / max_v)
        loss = self.mpl(loss)
        mpl_vis =  loss.cpu().data[0].numpy()
        _, max_v, _, _ = cv2.minMaxLoc(mpl_vis)
        cv2.imshow("mpl_vis", mpl_vis / max_v)
        cv2.waitKey(0)
        return loss.sum()