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(Question) KDE plasma @ shortcut not working on German layout
Hi I'm using KDE plasma latest version,
this is what the installer gathered: (EV) Toshy installer sees this environment: DISTRO_NAME = 'neon' DISTRO_VER = '22.04' VARIANT_ID = 'notfound' SESSION_TYPE = 'x11' DESKTOP_ENV = 'kde' DE_MAJ_VER = '6'
It all works fine except for the @ shortcut. When I press alt (right of my spacebar and cmd), and press L in for example Kate (texteditor) it types 2d. When I try alt + q it types 153.
I'm using this keyboard: https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-mac/ with a german layout.
Update: CMD + z in google chrome opens my history instead of reverting my last input.
@kvonspiczak
Keyboard type is defaulting to Windows probably. And you don’t have ibus configured in KDE.
You may also have some difficulties with the German layout, but that’s a separate issue.
Try to force the keyboard type in the tray icon menu. Use “Apple”.
If you can tell me the device name we might be able to fix this permanently for all users. Use the diagnostic shortcut or run toshy-devices in a terminal.
The README describes these different issues. Including how to set a custom entry for the device name to make it get treated as the “Apple” keyboard type.
International ISO level 3 characters may need the preference for the Alt_Gr key to be enabled in the tray icon menu.
This is the output of toshy-devices:
kvonspiczak@kde:~/Downloads$ toshy-devices
List of devices seen by the keymapper (keyszer):
keyszer v0.7.1
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Device Name Phys
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/dev/input/event0 Sleep Button PNP0C0E/button/input0
/dev/input/event1 Power Button PNP0C0C/button/input0
/dev/input/event2 Power Button LNXPWRBN/button/input0
/dev/input/event3 Video Bus LNXVIDEO/video/input0
/dev/input/event4 USB GAMING MOUSE usb-0000:00:14.0-7/input0
/dev/input/event5 USB GAMING MOUSE Keyboard usb-0000:00:14.0-7/input1
/dev/input/event6 Conexant Sennheiser Main Audio Consumer Control
usb-0000:00:14.0-2.2/input5
/dev/input/event7 Conexant Sennheiser Main Audio usb-0000:00:14.0-2.2/input5
/dev/input/event8 Metadot - Das Keyboard Das Keyboard usb-0000:00:14.0-2.4/input0
/dev/input/event9 Metadot - Das Keyboard Das Keyboard System Control
usb-0000:00:14.0-2.4/input1
/dev/input/event10 Metadot - Das Keyboard Das Keyboard Consumer Control
usb-0000:00:14.0-2.4/input1
/dev/input/event11 HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=3 ALSA
/dev/input/event12 HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=7 ALSA
/dev/input/event13 HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=8 ALSA
/dev/input/event14 HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=9 ALSA
/dev/input/event15 HDA Intel PCH Front Mic ALSA
/dev/input/event16 HDA Intel PCH Rear Mic ALSA
/dev/input/event17 HDA Intel PCH Line ALSA
/dev/input/event18 HDA Intel PCH Line Out Front ALSA
/dev/input/event19 HDA Intel PCH Line Out Surround ALSA
/dev/input/event20 HDA Intel PCH Line Out CLFE ALSA
/dev/input/event21 HDA Intel PCH Line Out Side ALSA
/dev/input/event22 HDA Intel PCH Front Headphone ALSA
/dev/input/event23 HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=3 ALSA
/dev/input/event24 HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=7 ALSA
/dev/input/event25 HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=8 ALSA
/dev/input/event26 Keyszer (virtual) Keyboard py-evdev-uinput
“Metadot - Das Keyboard Das Keyboard”
That’s the device name to add to the custom dictionary entry described in the FAQ about keyboard types.
If that is guaranteed to be an Apple layout keyboard, I can also add it to the default config file.
Hmm I only own the mac edition and not the windows one, so I can't tell for sure, how the windows one would identify itself, when connecting it.
Hmm I only own the mac edition and not the windows one, so I can't tell for sure, how the windows one would identify itself, when connecting it.
That’s a potential problem. But you can fix it for yourself with the custom entry in the config file.
This issue thread describes in detail the problem with the non-US layout. Which you may or may not find to be a big deal. Depends on what shortcuts you tend to use.
https://github.com/RedBearAK/toshy/issues/79
One more question: do the system keyboard settings affect toshy at all? For instance in KDE I can configure the keyboard type to be apple, or generic or anything basically. Does that affect how toshy works? It seems like in PHPStorm most of the shortcuts produce some characters that are typed but do not result in the actual shortcut i pressed, e.g. CMD + C / CMD + V, CMD + Z, it all results in random numbers (probably the key code)? But in Kate or chrome more shortcuts seem to be working.
edit: seems like it needed a little bit to apply the changes. Now it works fine in PHPStorm :D I added my keyboard identifier to the config as you recommended, then enabled the auto detection again, also disabled OptSpecLayout and enabled ALT_GR on Right CMD.
I'll update the thread, if i run into more issues. For now it seems fine. Thanks for making this!
One more question: do the system keyboard settings affect toshy at all? For instance in KDE I can configure the keyboard type to be apple, or generic or anything basically. Does that affect how toshy works?
Yes, normally best to stick with the default way the keyboard was identified. Changing it to a different physical type in the DE settings outside of Toshy can make the modifier remaps not make sense. But using a “Macintosh” variant of the logical layout can give you access to the special characters you usually find on Apple keyboards in macOS. Though unlike the OptSpecLayout internal to the Toshy config file, those special characters are only accessible with the Alt_Gr key on the right side.
The situation can be a bit complicated. 😑
@RedBearAK I have this same keyboard need to manually set to Apple now; I do not think they made a "v4" of that keyboard for Windows but I would expect the product to report that version of the keyboard to you.
Is there a suggestion for me adding it just for my install here?
BTW, unrelated to this ticket/issue but your setup and install process for Toshy is SO good; nice work!!!
@RedBearAK - never mind, I found your process; 👍 thank you for such a great app... I swap between mac & linux and this is amazing