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MacOS menu options are now only accessible from the dock, rather than the menu bar.

Open oscu0 opened this issue 6 months ago • 12 comments

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Application

Outline Client

What are you trying to do? What is your use case?

The new Outline client works as an app instead of a menu bar item, i.e. with a full window and present in both the Dock and the menu bar. The menu bar item is useless because it doesn't provide any functionality that isn't present in the Dock and the Dock item has to be in the Dock essentially at all times — the previous configuration was much cleaner, in my opinion.

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe it.

No response

Describe the solution you'd like.

Add an option to hide Outline from the Dock. Better yet, add an option to do that and go back to the previous window style (or implement #2509).

Describe alternatives you've considered

I would roll back to 1.15.1 but that's not possible to do without building it from source myself.

oscu0 avatar May 24 '25 08:05 oscu0

Totally agree with the author and wait when Outline will hide the dock icon or allow to use menu mode as it was before...

RuBAN-GT avatar May 27 '25 06:05 RuBAN-GT

Totally agree with the author and wait when Outline will hide the dock icon or allow to use menu mode as it was before...

Agreed, if anything, the recent change degrades the user experience.

paranoidPhantom avatar May 28 '25 13:05 paranoidPhantom

Totally agree with the author and wait when Outline will hide the dock icon or allow to use menu mode as it was before...

I agree with you 😀 I think it should have two options 'Menu Bar Mode' and 'Movable Window Mode'

seu1a avatar May 29 '25 00:05 seu1a

The new update makes the UX way worse. Please roll back to the old version.

sergebezborodov avatar May 29 '25 19:05 sergebezborodov

Agree. There was better previously.

RomanIzvozchikov avatar May 30 '25 10:05 RomanIzvozchikov

Not ideal - seems like the solution to this has something to do with this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70697737/hide-app-icon-from-macos-menubar-on-launch

daniellacosse avatar Jun 02 '25 17:06 daniellacosse

Just move the Outline app back to the menu bar if you cannot hide it from the dock. We don't need the app to be in the dock, it's just added an extra app in my cmd+tab list that is essentially useless when closed and cannot be removed.

My one cent to the Outline authors: Please don't create solutions for problems that don't exist. :)

khantzawhein avatar Jun 02 '25 20:06 khantzawhein

Another suggestion would be:

Left click to Outline menu bar icon: Open the app. When the user clicks the (x) button on the window, minimize the app to the menu bar, and hide the dock icon. Right click to Outline menu bar icon: Open dropdown menu with options to quit the app, open the app.

khantzawhein avatar Jun 02 '25 20:06 khantzawhein

This is a side-effect of our migration to Mac Catalyst, which enables us to use cordova-ios, and stop relying on the long unmaintained cordova-osx. We can't go back.

I believe we had difficulties making the popup work, so it didn't happen. Contributors are welcome to make an implementation proposal for consideration. Also consider additions to the menu.

I want to point out that the new UI did address a long-standing UX issue: users would open the app and see nothing new on the screen. With the window open and the icon on the dock, that is solved. Proposals will have to take that into account.

But I agree that the dock icon shouldn't show when the window is closed. I imagine that's easier to fix, and we welcome a contribution.

fortuna avatar Jun 02 '25 23:06 fortuna

I've opened a PR addressing this issue: #2517

seu1a avatar Jun 03 '25 11:06 seu1a

Waiting for update!

whisperartsapps avatar Jun 05 '25 13:06 whisperartsapps

I totally agree. Please roll back. Also, there was a possibility of not showing the app icon in the dock

ar-key avatar Jun 15 '25 13:06 ar-key

Update?

khantzawhein avatar Jun 26 '25 11:06 khantzawhein

Update?

Need feedback to be addressed on this pr! https://github.com/Jigsaw-Code/outline-apps/pull/2517

daniellacosse avatar Jun 26 '25 15:06 daniellacosse

I also prefer the previous behavior where Outline only appeared in the menu bar. The Dock icon clutters the workspace, and the menu bar icon now has no real functionality. I would really appreciate an option to hide Outline from the Dock or restore the old menu bar-only interface.

kuzovmi avatar Sep 12 '25 17:09 kuzovmi

the solution that i found for myself is to use https://github.com/vpukhanov/vipinator, then i don't need to open Outline app, to turn on/off outline vpn.

https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/ff0334f5-7134-4c41-9434-5ebf02a64753

tonku321 avatar Oct 07 '25 17:10 tonku321